Ayahuasca Podcast
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Sam Believ

Sam had a life-changing experience with Ayahuasca with the medicine taking away his depression and helping him find his purpose. Now Sam is on a mission to spread the word about Ayahuasca with AyahuascaPodcast.com as well as provide affordable and accessible Ayahuasca experience at his retreat – LaWayra.

LaWayra has become the most reviewed Ayahuasca retreat in South America in 3 years of its existence and has changed lives of 1000s of people.

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In this episode of the Ayahuasca Podcast, host Sam Believ sits down with Jacquie Wortley, a design leader, executive coach, and operations consultant who specializes in the intersection of technology, leadership, and mental health. Jacquie originally came to Lawayra in 2023 for what was supposed to be a simple weekend stay. Instead, she stayed for 10 days, sat with the medicine six times, and completely catalyzed her path away from emotional suppression, toxic relationship cycles, and excessive substance use.

Jacquie returns to share how her integration has evolved over the years, the profound lessons she learned from navigating a romantic relationship post-ceremony in July 2025, and how she is redefining corporate culture by introducing radical authenticity and soft skills to modern business environments.

Key Discussion Points

  • 03:15 – The Runaway Nomad: Jacquie shares her journey from Vancouver to Toronto, building a successful tech career while using geographical changes and excessive partying to run from family turbulence and emotional pain.

  • 07:45 – Sending a Scout: How testing the waters by sending a close friend to Lawayra first eventually led Jacquie to book her own transformative, 10-day marathon with the medicine.

  • 11:20 – Shift in Substances: Outgrowing the “excessive user” label, eliminating stimulant drugs entirely, and shifting her relationship with alcohol away from a coping mechanism.

  • 16:40 – Don’t Wake a Sleeping Baby: Jacquie opens up about her past mistake of trying to force psychedelic healing onto her previous partner before he was ready, and what it taught her about patience, humility, and unconditional love.

  • 23:15 – The Illusion of Being “Chill”: A deep look into the paradox of control issues, why the people who need to surrender the most fight the medicine the hardest, and Sam’s story of a breakthrough moment over a mattress arrangement.

  • 29:10 – The Conscious Operator: Stepping away from the traditional corporate “COO” mask to focus on deep inner self-awareness as the ultimate foundation for managing people and business logistics.

  • 35:00 – Radical Responsibility at Work: How leaders can handle difficult interpersonal dynamics with transparency, drop the professional facade, and own their emotional capacity with their teams.

  • 41:30 – Brainstorming the Entrepreneur Mastermind: Sam and Jacquie dive into a spontaneous idea to co-create a specialized Lawayra retreat tailored specifically for business owners, founders, and managers to combine ceremony with peer masterminds.

  • 46:15 – Unmasking Safely: How to navigate corporate vulnerability, identifying who you can safely open up to at work, and introducing feminine leadership into masculine environments.

The Mechanics of Control and Surrender

A central theme of Jacquie and Sam’s dialogue centers around how trauma survivors often use hyper-vigilance and control as a shield. Ayahuasca systematically deconstructs this defense mechanism, teaching that true surrender is an internal energetic release rather than an intellectual concept. As Jacquie notes, the medicine teaches you in the most frustrating way that head-in-the-bucket submission is often required before you can truly connect.

The Reality of Relational Integration

Jacquie reflects deeply on her experience dating her partner again after his first retreat in July 2025. She points out a crucial lesson for anyone navigating relationships post-ceremony:

“The ceremonies are simply just a vision of what could be. But it’s our integration that makes that vision into reality. Integration happens through conscious choice making and behavioral changes in our day-to-day life.”

Expecting a first-time sitter to integrate at the exact pace of a seasoned practitioner is a form of projection. True unconditional love means releasing control and allowing others to be exactly who they are on their own path.

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In this episode of the Ayahuasca Podcast, host Sam Believ sits down with Rick Doblin, Ph.D., the visionary founder of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies). Rick has spent over 40 years leading the “Psychedelic Renaissance,” moving MDMA through rigorous FDA clinical trials to treat PTSD and advocating for a post-prohibition world.

Rick shares his profound journey—from a draft resistor in the 70s to a global leader in drug policy—explaining why he believes humanity is currently in a “race between consciousness and catastrophe.”

Key Discussion Points

  • 04:15 – The Origins of Passion: Rick describes his upbringing in the shadow of the Holocaust and the Cuban Missile Crisis, which led to a lifelong quest to bridge the gap between human intellectual power and spiritual maturity.

  • 09:30 – The Bar Mitzvah That Wasn’t: Why Rick’s first LSD trip at 17 felt like the true “rite of passage” his traditional Bar Mitzvah failed to provide, sparking his interest in ancient transformative rituals.

  • 13:45 – The “Hitler Within”: A vulnerable recount of a DMT and Ketamine sequence in 1984 where Rick realized that the capacity for evil exists within everyone, leading to his mission for “mass mental health.”

  • 18:20 – The Birth of MAPS (1986): Navigating the DEA crackdowns of the 80s and deciding that medicalization through the FDA was the only viable path forward for psychedelics.

  • 24:50 – A Global “Ayahuasca Day”? Sam and Rick discuss the potential of cultural integration—moving psychedelics from the counterculture to the mainstream as a tool for societal sanity.

  • 29:10 – The Inflection Point: Rick reflects on the irony of President Trump’s executive order to accelerate psychedelic approvals and what it means for bipartisan support.

  • 34:00 – Inner Work as a Global Necessity: Discussing Carl Jung’s warning that “the only real danger now is man himself” and how psychedelics can help us manage our own destructive capacities.

  • 39:15 – Post-Apocalyptic Utopia: Exploring the vision of a world where technology handles labor, leaving humanity to focus on poetry, art, music, and consciousness.

The MAPS Strategy: From Criminal to Clinical

Rick explains that the strategy for the last 40 years has been to “go where the suffering is.” By focusing on treatment-resistant PTSD, MAPS has been able to show that these substances are not just “party drugs” but powerful tools for clinical healing.

The Race Between Consciousness and Catastrophe

Rick posits that as our technological capabilities (AI, nuclear energy, etc.) grow, our emotional and spiritual development must keep pace. Without a shift in consciousness, our advancements become tools for destruction.

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For many first-time visitors, ayahuasca arrives surrounded by uncertainty. People hear dramatic stories, see intense reactions, and wonder whether the medicine is truly healing or simply overwhelming. According to Sam Believ, founder of LaWayra Ayahuasca Retreat in Colombia, the answer depends entirely on how the medicine is approached. In the right setting, with the right preparation and guidance, ayahuasca can become one of the most powerful tools for emotional healing available today.

What Ayahuasca Actually Is

Sam explains ayahuasca in very practical terms: it is a traditional brew made by cooking two plants together over several days until they form a thick medicinal liquid.

One ingredient is the ayahuasca vine, while the second is a plant containing DMT, the psychoactive compound that creates the visionary aspect of the experience.

The vine itself plays a crucial role because it allows DMT to become active when taken orally. Without that interaction, the experience would not unfold in the same way.

For indigenous communities, however, the chemistry is only one part of the story. For thousands of years, the brew has been treated not as a drug, but as medicine — something used intentionally for healing, guidance, and understanding.

Why Every Experience Is Different

One of the most important lessons Sam shares is that ayahuasca rarely matches expectations.

Some people expect strong visuals and receive emotional clarity instead. Others expect insight and find themselves confronting physical discomfort, old memories, or powerful body sensations.

He often explains that the medicine seems to respond less to what a person wants and more to what they currently need.

That is why two people sitting side by side in the same ceremony can have completely different experiences.

One may feel deep peace while another moves through fear, grief, or intense internal questioning.

Why Purging Is Often Part of the Healing

For newcomers, vomiting is usually one of the biggest fears.

Yet once people experience it, many describe purging as one of the most meaningful moments of release during ceremony.

Sam explains that physical purging often arrives together with emotional release.

A difficult memory may surface, followed by vomiting, and afterward the emotional charge surrounding that memory often changes.

What felt heavy becomes lighter.

What felt trapped becomes mobile again.

This is why traditional ceremony does not treat purging as a problem, but often as a sign that something important is moving.

Why Safety Depends on Preparation

Although ayahuasca can be deeply healing, Sam emphasizes that it is not for everyone without exceptions.

People with schizophrenia in the family, serious heart conditions, or those taking certain medications — especially antidepressants — need special caution.

The medicine itself is not inherently dangerous for most healthy people, but interactions with medication can be serious.

That is why retreat preparation includes dietary guidance, medication restrictions, and clear screening before arrival.

For an average healthy person, however, he considers ayahuasca extremely safe when served correctly.

Why the Shaman Matters So Much

A major part of that safety comes from the ceremonial leadership.

Sam strongly warns against drinking ayahuasca casually, alone, or with inexperienced facilitators.

In his view, the presence of a real indigenous shaman is not simply cultural decoration — it is central to physical and emotional safety.

A trained shaman understands dosage, pacing, energetic shifts, and how to guide difficult moments during ceremony.

At LaWayra, cups are spaced carefully across the night to prevent people from going too deep too quickly.

That pacing is deliberate: too much medicine too early can make the journey overwhelming rather than productive.

Why Experience Matters More Than Labels

One of Sam’s strongest concerns is the growing number of people who begin serving medicine after very little training.

He believes the global popularity of ayahuasca has created situations where people present themselves as guides without having the depth required to hold ceremonies responsibly.

For him, true ceremonial authority takes years — often decades — of training inside indigenous lineages.

Someone may look spiritual, speak confidently, and still lack the knowledge needed when a ceremony becomes difficult.

That is why he advises people to choose retreats based on lineage, experience, and long-term reputation rather than appearance alone.

Why Depression Often Changes After Ceremony

Sam’s own relationship with ayahuasca began during a period he now recognizes as depression.

He had not been formally diagnosed, but emotionally he knew something was wrong.

His first deeper experiences with medicine did not instantly solve life, but they did something equally important: they removed enough pain for him to see clearly.

That clarity then made change possible.

He often explains that depression is not always random chemistry.

For many people, it is connected to suppressed emotion, dissatisfaction, fear, or unresolved life patterns.

Ayahuasca does not simply numb those feelings — it often reveals them directly.

Why People Call It Years of Therapy

At retreats, many participants describe one week of ceremony as feeling like years of therapy compressed into a short time.

Sam understands why.

In ordinary life, people often avoid uncomfortable thoughts for years.

Inside ceremony, those same thoughts can become impossible to ignore.

But unlike ordinary rumination, the medicine often adds perspective.

Pain appears together with meaning.

Patterns become visible.

What felt chaotic starts to make sense.

Why Integration Is the Real Work

Despite all the intensity of ceremony, Sam repeatedly says the most important part happens afterward.

A powerful experience alone does not change a life unless the person begins applying what they saw.

That is why journaling, walking in nature, meditation, silence, and reflection are all encouraged after retreat.

Sometimes integration means making large changes.

Sometimes it means doing nothing dramatic at all — simply allowing new understanding to settle.

But what matters most is not losing the insight immediately under everyday noise.

Why Modern Life Makes This So Necessary

One reason Sam believes ayahuasca resonates so strongly today is because many people rarely stop long enough to listen to themselves.

Modern life encourages productivity, distraction, and constant stimulation.

Very little space remains for internal reflection.

Even taking one week entirely for healing feels unusual to many people.

Yet he believes that lack of pause is one reason so many people struggle emotionally.

The retreat environment itself becomes healing because for many participants it is the first time in years they have truly stepped away.

A Tool, Not a Miracle

Sam is careful not to present ayahuasca as magic.

It does not automatically create happiness or permanently remove pain.

What it often does is interrupt automatic suffering long enough for new choices to become visible.

For some, that means healing depression.

For others, addiction weakens, anxiety softens, or emotional direction becomes clearer.

But the medicine still expects something afterward: honesty, patience, and willingness to continue the work once ceremony ends.


Listen to the whole podcast episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCjXIHLqh0c

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